My wife had attended several services before she received a petal with an image. Just to make myself clear—again. Posted by leodini in Commentaries, Philosophies, Rose Petal Images, best, birthday, Carmelo, Cortez, Filipino, images, IMC, Inner Magical Club, Leodini, magician, Manila, parties, petal, Philippines, Pinoy, Pinoy. Apart from personal religious feelings we would as professional conjurers And once you feel it, love for yourself and neighbor will overflow. Columbus, Ohio 43224 If you notice, it’s mostly Filipinos who follow him. years, lastly by Pope Paul V (1605-1621). What I did notice from the video was that the people seemed so interested in getting their petals that there does not seem to be any true or deep religious experience with all of this – to me, it all seems to stay at a very superficial level. After all, this is the defense of the Church in response to reports of miracles, as Leodini has explained above. The service starts with some prayers and a talk by Carmelo. Under this magical aspect I would base an “explanation” by our occasional usual misdirecting lay audiences by a well hidden SWITCH (unnoticeable by them ) of, Can you pick that up? If I follow my religion and receive the sacraments frequently, certainly I would love to hear any of the visionaries, be it Ivanka from Medjugorje, this gentleman from the Philippines and many others, which I have done in the past… But there is a point, and sometimes it might be difficult to comprehend unless you have actually lived it – where all this becomes stagnent and unproductive. I was very skeptical and was in shock when the images appeared on the petals. Hi saulsaul, please note Joanne Vavoso’s comment.
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Sir: I recently came across your note. St. Thomas remained a doubter even after hearing various reports of trustworthy companions–until he could put his fingers into the wounds of Christ. However, the way the service is conducted looks suspicious to me. Yes, the camera has failed to catch the trick. Anyway, I always bring some kind of flowers to place by her statue, preferably roses.. brought from Jerusalem to Constantinople by St. Helena. That would be especially difficult since when he comes to the area he stays with friends I know from church, and they take him from Church to Church. I have not seen how Bro. But I was young, reckless, brash and foolhardy then. “But what happened was if a person believed in what I was sharing – like what happens with the rose petals and that I had seen the Blessed Virgin – they asked me to lay hands.”. sending the Russians fleeing. He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble – The Magnificat”. This icon is Norm, your unsupported statement is typical of critics who have never been to one of Carmelo’s services. On my previous post, maybe it would have been better to have said, “… Being sprituallyclosed in this way is a mark of negative power …”, I was just in Ohio and saw Carmello. I love both topics, and I read up a lot of them. Mostly I was trying to figure out why you did not seem curious enough to try to witness one of these services. Her petals bear images of the Mary, a profile of her wearing a crown of 12 stars or holding a rosary. I think it’s a trick. Filipino Catholic has gift of making Sacred Images appear on Rose Petals [Catholic Review.org] December 14, 2011. Cheers! Many of these miracle men and women fizzle out after a week or two of basking in media spotlight, unmasked as frauds, their miracles found to be hoaxes. Carmelo was holding it already. Half-marathon 513-351-9800 Every one who wanted a rose petal received one however not every petal had an image on it. There is one more significant fact – both sides of the petals look the same neither side has the more dominant image. the first saturday of november, he was there. From the way you moderate this blog, you strike me as a remarkably level headed fellow and a gifted writer. (The Polish depiction of Our Lady of Czestochowa, Hi Patti, any good magician can make pictures appear on rose petals using a secret but natural method. her neck or shoulder (See La Bruna icon below), Glykophilousa I prided myself in being one of its top debaters in Iligan City. See more ideas about Rose, Petals, Rose petals. Our Lady of the Holy Spirit Center Francisco Del Monte in Quezon City. According to Janet, Carmelo picked up a regular looking petal from the bowl with the water (miraculously turned into perfumy, rose scented, oily liquid [the petals are floating from the liquid]). Not so on video Part 1, when the petals are still being prepared.
I didn’t know it even existed. So, my follow-up question to you would be: Why do you think that after so many years of this phenomenon, no investigation has been carried out by the Catholic Church in the Philippines? _qevents.push( { qacct:"p-cd43-S8IOHop2"} ); Infant of Prague, Santo Bambino di Ara Thank You. ITS NOT. Any one can think of that. When an investigation is done on a matter like this, it is directed by the local Bishop, which has been done and Carmelo’s Bishop has approved it as worthy of belief. Since there in a large filipino community in the area he has returned 2 times. I’m glad to hear of the good news of your husband having been cured from Bells Palsy. Another Hodegetria-style icon you should be familiar with Please see Haven’t I Told You Before? For me, the most telling part is when he distributes bowls of water to volunteers, asking these volunteers to go around the room, so people can dip their rosaries in the water. The images still appeared. As to the issue of a scrap book of these petals I guess I do not see how that impacts the supernatural nature. After the mass several people stood by the grotto for a blessing. But God knows they have all enriched the faith in general. And now on to the icon itself: Mary's gaze is aimed directly at you, as though she wants you to meet So finding where he is going to perform his next miracle, while not impossible to do, would entail great effort on my part, require lots of my time and even extract some money from my pocket to accomplish. Bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be; Bishop Oliveros said he asked Cortez to write about his experiences so they could be officially investigated because the church will “have to certify” through a laborious process whether his gifts truly come from the supernatural. “all you want”, if that gives you comfort.
Next time he comes, we will be there an we will watch him… now there will be two of us watching. Ive never heard of the man until that day because my wife wanted to take her sister, who is very ill. This they have done. Download the perfect rose petal pictures. But I cannot tell anybody around me and wreak havoc in a place where I was amongst ardent believers. I recieved one with an image of the mother mary and child and the detail in the image is amazing! You can believe all you want, that is your right. After all, it is the one that elevated Mary into a god-like status, and this is one great way to confirm it since Mary is always very prominent in the petal ‘images.’ Magicians David Copperfield, Lance Burton, Penn & Teller, Criss Angel and David Blaine create better illusions. No one, including Ted, has made any real attempt to explain how Carmelo does 3-4 services in 4-5 nights in an 200-300 miles area staying with local host families traveling with a local sponsor to these services which usually last 1-2 hours before the roses are distributed. Thanks, Bernadette, for sharing what you witnessed. I will not be surprised if years from now, Brother Cortez’ could lose his healing gift.
icon, as are St. Luke's "Salus Populi Romani" icon kept at St. Mary I’m glad you found me on the Internet and trust me to answer your question. As I have previously posted the images are extremely detailed beyond anything I would have expected especially considering how small they are. I took a picture with a run of the mill digital camera four years ago of a petal with the face of Christ with a crown of thorns and had it enlarged to a 5″x7″ size. We all shall see if you address this challenge on your next post – I bet not. The Virgin Mother statue is stunning and the artist has captured her youth realistically portraying her as a teenager.
People at work were going nuts over the images on this guys petals as they had been to a conference that he was at. I apologize to Bro. So happy that my comments brought back memories that help you start the day in contemplation. We've already
(Grebenskaya, Our Lady of the Way, The Leader, The Guide of the Church), Mary holding “. Theologically, there are many, many problems with a layman’s presenting himself as the source of Communion hosts (even if mediated by a “miracle”). P.S. Carmelo working his miracle would allow me to make a more informed opinion. When the camera went back to the bowl, Bro. The golden crown that adorns the image today was a gift of St. Pius X The picture was later placed on a church altar, and a relative of Cortez I could elaborate, but it might take a few pages just to relate.
I was told by a visionary friend that manifestations would differ from person to person according to what God would want them understand. I really don’t know how to express my thoughts on this matter since I have never been a religious person. If this is not a miracle I would like someone to explain how this is done. The image comes from those Catholi c embossed medallions. Incidentally, he and I are on the same wave length.
During the service, Brother Cortez dispelled any doubts by having volunteer attendees prepare the mineral water and rose petals into a bowl. added it to the icon. Sacred images on rose petals. from the Polish invasion in 1612. her neck, Mary is shown
!sundan nyu lang ang kabataan nmin at kung sinu si carmelo s buhay ni pope john paul hanggang ngaun s tingin ko mahuhuli nyu kung bakit sy ngaun may ganitung biyaya!! I just can’t help but feel that a miracle “on-demand” as seems to happen with Carmelo just “cheapens” the message as a whole. A chemical reaction caused by oxidation, a reaction with the oxygen in the air – which would explain why the petals would have to be in a bowl of water.
doesn't show up in this reproduction, Jesus and Mary are surrounded by Also, from the little information I have gathered so far, I hear the services are held on weekends. Look at what I am holding in the palm of my hand and tell me. petals. Then if convinced, that it is not-of-this-realm, so to speak, do not jump to the conclusion that it is necessarily from God. Carmelo worked his miracles. “I asked the beloved Virgin, ‘Why me? I would like to have an image on my precious swimming gold medal. I feel that he used distraction techniques.
Is Carmelo Cortez in the Philippine or in the US? It’s been a long time since we last received news about Brother Carmelo. Not that I need a reply. “And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree He laid hands over our heads, said a silent prayer, then inserted one white rose petal within the hem/collar of our shirts. Thanks and God Bless.
Heavy rain started to fall while a lay minister dressed in jeans and a T-shirt worked the line, carrying a metal bowl of freshly plucked white rose petals in one hand. He wanted to know if I, as a magician, believed these images were miracles. Son, Who touches His face to hers and wraps (at least) one arm around See the attached article which in part says: “Bro Carmelo left for the Philippines after the service in LA, grateful for the donations the parishes he visited gave for the victims of the typhoons, especially those belonging to his parish in Malolos, Bulacan.” This was in 2009.
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